wherein DF travels to Deutschland for the 2006 world cup to follow the US men's national soccer team

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Good news about Reyna injury?

The early reports are that Reyna suffered no significant muscle damage in his right hamstring last night against Morocco. A recent scan on Claudio's hammy showed "no serious damage" and US officials report that the prognosis is good. Reyna seems happy about the situation as well, calling the result "very good news."

But is it? Mooch Myernick doesn't seem so positive about the situation, stating flatly that Reyna "will be out for an extended period of time." That sounds WC-threatening to me, and also inconsistent with the other, more sanguine reports.

Moreover, while Captain America is, well, our captain, I've never been convinced that we're necessarily that much better off with him in the lineup. This is true, at least, when Mastroeni can step in and give us a performance like he did last night. I don't think we lost much if anything with Pablo in there that we would have had with Claudio in the same position. I'm no Reyna-hater and I'd slot him in at D-mid if healthy, but there are other players who I think are a lot more irreplaceable.

11 Comments:

Blogger mirarchi said...

Thanks for passing that along. That's great news, although Mooch's comment does give me pause -- Reyna being out for an extended period doesn't sound good.

I agree with you about Reyna no longer being indispensable. I remember when we learned Reyna would be unavailable for our match against Portugal in '02, I thought there was no way we could win. You put it best -- Reyna should start if he's healthy, but if he's not healthy, it's not the end of the world.

That we're no longer so dependent on Reyna shows how far U.S. soccer has come over the past decade.

3:12 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger SMELLRAT said...

Yeah, Mirarchi, we only lost a home game to Morocco 0-1. We're ready! Dream on guys! US: Dead in Group. Also, ps, Reyna's got a whole lotta international experience (and also a whole lotta injuries, too). Lots of kids gonna freak out and fuck up in the early group play.

3:20 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger DF said...

Yeah, Mirarchi, we only lost a home game to Morocco 0-1. We're ready! Dream on guys! US: Dead in Group. Also, ps, Reyna's got a whole lotta international experience (and also a whole lotta injuries, too). Lots of kids gonna freak out and fuck up in the early group play.

Yikes, let's see if it's possible to enumerate the things wrong with this...

First, no one's claiming that we're ready for the world cup, on this blog at least. Did you even read my post about the game itself? Hardly optimistic, though not gratuitously pessimistic either.

Second, you're probably right that our one-goal loss to Maroc in a friendly means we're dead in our WC group. After all, our smashing 3-0 victory over Austria in a pre-1998 friendly clearly presaged great success. Call Bruce and cancel the WC.

Third, there's virtually no correlation between Reyna's presence in our lineup and WC success. He played against Mexico in 02 and we won. He didn't play against Portugal and we won. He didn't play against Poland and we lost. He played against Germany and we lost.

Fourth, Reyna's replacement--Mastroeni--not only has international experience but was one of our stars in WC 2002, when he was brought in to replace an injured Reyna. I'd marginally prefer Claudio to Pablo, but since Mastro has done so well in so many pressure situations, I'm simply not that concerned about Reyna's injury. Now if Donovan got hurt...

3:43 PM, May 24, 2006

 
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3:49 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger mirarchi said...

And before we get carried away with crying "the sky is falling," it's helpful to remember that around this time in the runup to the '02 WC, we barely eked out a 1-1 draw with the Richmond Kickers!

Sure, it would have been nice to beat Morocco, but all the result shows us is that we're not yet ready for the WC. We've got three weeks. In Bruce I trust...

4:05 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger mirarchi said...

This article on Reyna's MRI has a quote from Mooch that is a lot more encourageing:

"There's no alarm bells going off that he's going to be out for a long time," U.S. assistant coach Glenn Myernick said.

That's a lot better than the quote from the story DF linked to:

"There was no damage but of course it's not 24 hours after the injury," said U.S. assistant coach Glenn Myernicki.

"It still needs to quieten down. There are no alarm bells going off but he will be out for an extended time."


I'm guessing the reporter in the story DF linked to just got Mooch's quote wrong, since it just doesn't make sense otherwise -- if Reyna will be out for an extended period of time, then how could there be no alarm bells going off?

4:32 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger SMELLRAT said...

Dude, Reyna's played club ball in Scotland, Germany, and with at least 2 clubs in England ( Sunderland and Man. City). Okay, here's where you list your boy Mastroeni's great international club experience . . . Colorado! You're honestly comparing their international experience? Whoa.
The US can't score goals. Now who is the more likely playmaker, Reyna or Mastroeni? Also you can't just list game results, like you did, and pretend that's indicative of a players bearing in a game.

7:06 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger DF said...

Smellrat, I think you're a better novelist than a soccer analyst--when you're writing fiction your grasp of actual facts (or lack thereof) doesn't matter.

For one thing, my comment didn't seek to compare Mastro and Reyna in terms of international club experience, it merely pointed out that in the past Mastro has replaced Reyna in the World Cup due to injury and done an excellent job. Hence I'm cool with the idea of this happening again.

And as for the comment about CR versus PM as playmakers, this makes no sense because for the MNT they're both holding/defensive midfielders. Reyna didn't even play in an attacking position in the 02 WC, where he was a right-sided mid.

9:08 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger SMELLRAT said...

Oh, I musta misunderstood you earlier. Now you're admitting that Masteroni's international experience pales in comparison to Reyna's? You sure didn't make that clear earlier.

Reyna has played a lot of roles in his career (how old are you?) and although he is known as a defender he is by no means restricted to that role. If the team needs it (and the US does) he can both score goals and set them up, and if you don't believe me then check your history. He is the greatest player in US history. Which ain't saying much.

9:29 PM, May 24, 2006

 
Blogger mirarchi said...

If the team needs it (and the US does) he can both score goals and set them up, and if you don't believe me then check your history.

Rat, no wonder you're so pessimistic about the U.S.'s chances -- you think we need Reyna to score goals! If we end up relying on Reyna to score goals for us, we are really screwed. Reyna may be a lot of things, but he is not a goal-scorer. In 108 caps, he has a whopping 8 goals! That's as many goals as Eddie Pope, who is a center back. Eddie Johnson has scored more goals than Reyna and has about one-tenth as many caps! Donovan has 25 goals in 78 caps, and McBride has 29 goals in 90 caps. If Reyna is healthy, we'll be relying on him to do a lot of things, but I can assure you that scoring goals is not one of them.

To be sure, Reyna is a better playmaker than goal-scorer, but if we have to rely on Reyna as our attacking midfielder, we're also screwed, since he's just not that good in that role. Donovan and O'Brien are much better playmakers and much more dangerous.

Reyna is a great player. His ability to hold the ball under pressure and make the safe pass to relieve pressure is really valuable. But, as DF said, if Reyna is unavailable, Mastro is a competent substitute. If anything, Mastro is a better ball-winner and tackler than Reyna, although Reyna is of course better on the ball and a better passer.

As far as comparing Mastro's and Reyna's clubs, I think how they've actually performed in the past World Cups is much more meaningful than comparing where they play their club ball. After all, Jovan Kirovski has been on the books of Manchester United, Borrusia Dortmund (he scored a goal for them in the Champions League they year they won it), Sporting Lisbon, Crystal Palace, and Birmingham City in the EPL (where he was at the time of the 2002 WC and where he ended up playing in 20-plus games). Kirovski didn't make our 2002 WC roster -- Bruce rightly took MLS players Beasley, Donovan, and Mathis instead. If the clubs a player has been with dictated the the player's performance in World Cups, then Kirovski should have been our starting a-mid or striker in '02, which, of course, would have been a disaster.

11:03 AM, May 25, 2006

 
Blogger DF said...

Reyna for A-mid, eh? I think smellrat may be Steve Sampson in disguise...

3:28 PM, May 25, 2006

 

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